My bread game is as intense as a “civil discussion” on marriage equality

Evidence of my bread game:

Damn straight. (Cronuts is copyrighted...)

Damn straight. (Cronuts is copyrighted…)

Darn tootin. I made Cronuts this week. Well, not really Cronuts, but I made donuts from croissant/puff pastry dough (that I made, obvi) and covered them in deliciousness. Left to right: spiced sugar, glaze, powdered sugar. That baker’s dozen was gone in 4 hours, which is way faster than baked goods usually go, besides chocolate chip cookies at lunch, maybe. I’ll be making more. It is very exciting. Also, of course, made more croissants with the same dough, first. Nothing else too wild in the baking world this weekend. Some cinnamon rolls, re-purposed a cookie dough that confused me. It was good.

I did start working at the Bistro next door to the Spoon, though. I’m washing dishes over there, and maybe moving into some prep/line work later. We’ll see. But I got to wash dishes for six hours Saturday night, so that was pretty cool.

On Thursday night, Songbird’s place of work (the 1A Public House) was hosting a civil discussion (have something along those lines every Thursday night) on the Marriage Equality act. 90% of the people there are for marriage equality, but there was one conservative table, which, I guess, you need for a debate/discussion. Long story short, I got to get frustrated in person with the idiocy and lack of logic in the anti-marriage equality argument. Thinking about it makes me antsy.  I really tried to promise myself to be open and listen to both sides of the discussion openly and fairly, but two things quickly made that promise useless. 1) the conservative side’s argument does not follow logic. 2) the conservative side (in this case and somewhere from some to most of the time) does not listen to the liberal side’s argument, and often, questions! Gah! (Yes, I recognize I’m using a simplification of categories of people here, but its easier that way, while not precise.)
L: “How does the marriage equality act hurt you?” (Not the first thing that was said, fyi.)
C: “I just don’t want to be forced to rent or make a cake for gay people!”
*violent spasms from frustration*

L: “So, you want permission to discriminate against people, like with race?”
C: “I won’t even go there!”
The refusal to relate this discrimination to racism, to me, says that this particular conservative knows that if she took even the briefest deeper look into her views, she would see that they are wrong. However, her beliefs in Christianity, and probably a general squeemishness about gay sex (oh no! its so gross!) force her to take a work around and just not exam in it. She just doesn’t go there and is thus able to live in  a happy place in her mind where she can think it is not discrimination to not serve some people because of how they were born, but can consider it discrimination against her if the government were to force her to serve everyone, no matter their race, sexuality, or sexual orientation at her place of business (which isn’t even happening! If she wanted to, she could happily deny to make a gay cake, if she ran a bakery, which I don’t think she does, it was just the example she used. That and house renting). And somehow, relates the fact that allowing gay people to get a CIVIL MARRIAGE, not even a RELIGIOUS MARRIAGE (which is still entirely up to churches to decide to if they will marry two people. As far as I know, I a preacher could marry a man and his gay identified goldfish, if the preacher wanted. The government certainly wouldn’t and couldn’t do anything about it. The congregation might, but that’s different.) Quite frankly, I’m impressed with those sorts of mental gymnastics. It takes tremendous will of mind to hold a belief in the way of logic, in my opinion.
I like to look to the wise words of Rufus, the 13 disciple of Jesus at this point (watch Dogma, if you haven’t).
Rufus: He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the shit that gets carried out in His name – wars, bigotry, televangelism. But especially the factioning of all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always, built a belief structure on it.
Bethany: Having beliefs isn’t good?
Rufus: I think it’s better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier

One of my favorite arguments from the conservative (there was only really one at the table who was talking) was that gay people didn’t need to get married because she was single (and old) and fine. *internally banging my head against a brick wall*

Thankfully, there were some great parts to the discussion (well… discussion might be too strong of a term, that usually takes listening in addition to speaking by both sides…). First, a mother told the story of how she and her husband came to accept their queer (her exact sexuality was not clarified) daughter (who was there with her girlfriend) despite previously, and currently, being conservative! She cried, I think her daughter and the girlfriend cried and probably 30-40% of the people in the bar. It was beautiful. She said how she knew she couldn’t abandon her daughter, especially after seeing her sisters accept her as she is. She said how the family loves their daughter and her girlfriend and would want them to get married (if they wanted that) and would want them to not have to leave the state to do so because they are proud Buckeyes! She said how the dad showed evidence of finally coming around to accepting because he got the girlfriend a laminater for Christmas (she is a teacher). It was wonderful and beautiful and great and I’m 80% sure the conservative talked through it, as she talked through the other super important part. There is a marriage equality act working to be put on the ballot this year for Ohio. Its a super simple statement that basically says any two consenting adults can get a civil marriage in Ohio, and churches can recognize whatever marriages they want to recognize. They’re working on getting a million signatures so it can be on the ballot. Go Buckeyes (assuming it passes)!

Change is here, change is coming. People against marriage equality are dying. I don’t think people are really moving to that side from the pro-marriage equality side, but anti-marriage equality members are definitely changing sides.

Ok, I think I’ve let enough out to calm down for a little while.

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